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  • PlainSpeak
    04-16 03:26 PM one here knows everything abt immigration. so its ok that u lost this argument. we are here to share out experiences, enlighten each other, and work for easing EB backlogs. The fact that theres no one in entire IV that supports ur argument should put some sense into you abt this issue.

    and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!

    No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'

    Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........

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  • anilsal
    09-07 11:19 PM
    Nope, they are not taking my jobs but you are. So don't care about them but I do care about what you are doing or going to do.

    Thanks for caring. Wake up to the global economy.

    Maybe digest the fact that it is a 2 way journey. Qualified people are coming to the US whereas many of the top graduates from here are going to Indo China, to work for top firms.

    Adapt or perish.

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  • srkamath
    07-09 11:04 PM
    According to DHS statistics there are around 50,000 EB2 lndia Labors in 2004 and 2005 each. So ppl with 2005, 2006 priority dates you can wait around 6-7 years for ur priority dates to be current with annual limit of around 5000 for EB2 India.

    The lawsuit can be filed by your American Civil Liberties Union Member or ur aunt or uncle or mistress who is a US citizen. U guys and gals with 485's will not be there in the lawsuit but will benefit if the lawsuit wins.

    I looked at the links you have provided and I'm still not sure where your "50,000 EB2 India Labors...." came from. These numbers do not seem trustworthy or reliable.

    Here's data directly from the DOL ETA website.....
    3/28/2005 to 10/28/2005 there were a total of 15973 Labor certifications approved - that includes EB1, 2, 3, 4 for all countries, and 3734 cases for Indian nationals in EB1, 2, 3, 4. Of course a part of EB1 and all of EB5 don't need labor certs.

    If you download the database from the DOL website, apply filters for India, approved cases, then filter out all Level I in all non-managerial occupations, followed by non EB2 job descriptions - you end up with ~ 8 - 9% approvals for EB2-IN which is approx 1300 - 1400 primary applicants.
    In my estimates, i removed most computer programmer level occupations as the USCIS has been very reluctant to approve EB2 for these cases - i could be wrong here.
    As you see, it is IMPOSSIBLE for EB2 IN cases between 3/28/2005 to 10/28/2005 to be much more than 3800 (that is approx 3800 x 2 visas incl dep).
    A total of nearly 50000 EB2 IN applicants (including dep) for 2004 and 2005 may be possible.

    The massive retrogressions we are seeing is mainly because of the fact that only 15439 EB2 visas were issued in 2003, and 32532 i 2004 thanks to DOL backlogs and mis-interpretations of the law by DOS !!!! compare that with an average of 43,000 in most other years since the 1990s.

    I'm pretty confident that your numbers are incorrect

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  • pappu
    03-09 11:06 AM
    As everyone is aware of the FOIA letters we have received from USCIS. We requested everyone to fax/email us the USCIS letter.

    Here is an update on IV plans and what we know till now:

    On Friday, during the discussions with USCIS, we came to know that that there is a backlog of FOIA requests and currently they are clearing FOIA requests they received in 2007. We also know from the letter that the report wll not have 'country of chargeability' info. This is a critical info that we ought to have. Even after paying 5K to USCIS, over one year wait time to get the FOIA request completed will be unacceptable to the community.

    In light of these developments we have explored other options to get this data and use the copies of replies we get as an example how badly we need this data to get accurate picture of the size and breakdown of the current backlog, so that we can all know how long we need to wait in the current system, if nothing changes. We would also ideally like such data to be always available and updated for public periodically.

    Our first option is that we put in effort to get this data without having to pay $5K to USCIS. We will also try to get the data much sooner rather than all of us wait for more than a year.This could be possible via advocacy effort and our initial discussions on this subject have been promising. We will pursue this and if we do not make much progress until the deadline then we may pay 5K and still pursue the advocacy option to get the data faster. Thus we need more than 5K to proceed with these parallel options. The advocacy effort will also be an ongoing task beyond the first month. Thus we request members to sign up for recurring payment option to support this initiative and any other initiative we undertake for the community.

    We have added a paypal module on the top of each page with a target amount. Members can use this fresh tool added to IV website to contribute. We prefer if members contributing to the effort on recurring monthly basis for a long term support of IV efforts. All members who contribute through this system will also have access to special 'Contributor's Forum' on the IV website.

    Thank You for your effort and contribution for building a stronger community.


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  • pdakwala
    12-19 05:24 PM
    People don't wait for others to take action. Those others are no one but you and me. So please please stop thinking and just do it.

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  • Sherman_tribiani
    09-07 10:21 PM
    Yes,, they did...
    Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
    Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
    And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.

    What do you have to bring to the table?

    ask your father mother grandfather grandmother...............if they had in them to earn this....


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  • gcdreamer05
    03-09 03:50 PM
    Subscription Details

    Date of sign up: Mar. 9, 2009
    Subscription Name: Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: gcdreamer05)
    Subscription Number: S-0CT4078178407321M

    Last contribution had some error, so posted again and this time went through and i got the Subscription number....

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  • poorslumdog
    05-10 10:34 PM
    I just want to generate enough internet chatter so that the issue of substitute labor will come on CIS radar. I know for sure that a huge fraud was perpetrated during July 07 fiasco by some unscrupulous consulting companies who sold pre-approvevd labors like frozen pizzas. Just heat and eat.

    And I also know for sure that IV has gained enough publicity that CIS folks might be tempted to check it now and then. May be they will take notice of this thread and start investigation of all the subst labors.

    I surely am pissed as hell on somebody who came to this country in 2007, and got his/her GC by paying money for some 1999 pre approved labor. I will fight on.

    This is only creating divison and nothing else.


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  • jonty_11
    07-05 04:08 PM
    Media will not loose NEWS..please send the flowers and spread it to your friends,media will come automatically when there is a news. we will discuss the plan of action on 9th.

    Lets concentrate on Iv action items..This is not an IV endorsed effort.

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  • gsc999
    11-17 10:45 AM
    I have a Wii gaming console that I bought earlier during the year but never actually got around to play it much

    I want to donate that to IV.

    ************************************************** *

    That Idea has to come from you Gopal. we were talking about you at our SanDiego event last week.

    Can you please put the gaming console on eBay or Craigs list and send the donation to IV. Thanks for comming forward with the Idea
    Sure, I will wait for a couple days to see if any IVer wants it directly, otherwise, I will put it up at Ebay. At ebay there are some selling costs, that doesn't matter, I guess.

    I was away for some weeks, trip to India, am back now. Hope the San Diego event went well.



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  • santb1975
    11-16 01:59 PM
    I still made a one time 100$ Holiday contribution. Please Join this effort.


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  • qasleuth
    02-25 10:53 AM
    ya, lets step-up a poll and have everyone vote, as if this is the US congress. And after voting leave it for someone else to work on this and other "brilliant" idea. There needs to be a reality check. This poll doesn't mean anything unless there are enough people to spend time and energy at every level. But ya, lets setup a poll and have everyone vote, it will give everyone a feel good factor that everyone contributed in the advocacy effort, how? by voting in the pool and not doing anything about how everyone votes.


    Sanju, I understand your cynicism but not sure how your scathing comments are helping the cause. Hurling insults is not how you motivate people, if at all that is your intention. If you are so disillusioned then step aside for a few weeks/months and just watch.
    Keep in mind, I am not personally attacking you.


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  • PlainSpeak
    04-15 09:47 AM
    Now you are telling the real reason :)

    2 yrs wait?? Its been 4 yrs and yet to file 485

    Fortunately you are one among the minorities that oppose this proposal. I am glad that IV has this proposal as part of its agenda

    Whether i am a minority and whether i am a majority does not make any difference.

    If you want legal speak then ...
    Giving GC to STEM graduates is not the right way. If US needs to keep these educated people in US then US needs to make sure these educated people get an H1B without any issues and then they are on the path to GC like everyone else because H1B is a dual intenet visa. Jumping from a F1 visa to a GC visa is not correct as F1 visa is not a immigration intenet visa

    If you want plain speak then ...
    Why should STEM graduates have it easy when a H1B has to struggle and wait in liner to get a GC.

    I would agree to this only is the requirement is made so that only PHD and scientist who have atleats acouple of research papers published be given GC and not every Tom, Dick and harry who completes 4 years engg degree in india from a 2 bit university and whose parents have money and uses this money to pay for 2 years MS.

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  • swamy
    11-19 07:32 PM
    make it 800 - & wise guys wont see me for a while


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  • reedandbamboo
    09-12 09:24 AM
    I think USCIS actions are too random . I do not think they want to see the real projections or the real demands. If they wanted to , believe me it should not have been difficult at all. Nevertheless, the first step towards that would be asking for transparency. The letter and poster campaign can do that.

    I agree!! What the few of us gathered here are trying to accomplish is to get the USCIS to FOLLOW THE RULES.

    We are SICK of the monthly visa bulletin RANDOMNESS. We are not demanding our GCs to be approved immediately. We want transparency so that we can MAKE PLANS and get on with our lives.

    WHY THE HELL can they not produce a figure for the number of pending cases in each category? They just pull figures (with a wide margin of error AND subject to correction) out of their BACKSIDES!

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  • ujjwal_p
    08-21 07:02 PM
    Many guys here worry too much, just relax and live a peaqceful life. Jus think this, we are highly educated and would defintely be able to make a living anywhere in the world, not just US. Don't worry tooo much and think others have no work and want to fool you guys.

    Just my 2 cents......

    lol.. well said dude.. you may already know, but happy news digests better.. i dont know if what you are saying is true or not, although I wouldn't be surprised if it is true given what we've seen before. anyway, when you come up with something like this, you trigger massive defense mechanisms of people who are refreshing iv/cris every few minutes. so u shudnt be surprised by the responses.


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    11-17 07:25 PM

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  • bsbawa10
    09-14 03:17 PM
    Leadership can't be demanded/begged from other people. Either you lead or if not ... then just pray that others will.

    I think it can be demanded or requested. The people who have the role of the admin or have control over the forum can post such appeals on the front page. Not everybody on this forum can do that.

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  • Munshi75
    03-06 06:48 PM
    Usually IV allows only 100 dollars payment using a credit card through the website. How to get around this issue.


    07-17 07:05 PM
    ** I've posted this message in other threads as well. Want to be part of every thread circulated in appreciation of IV and its contribution to the relief that we got today **

    I don't have words to show my gratitude and appreciation for IV team.

    On July 2nd, I was so upset. I did not have a clue of what is going to happen.

    Then I came across IV. I joined it as I was joining any forum remotely related to immigration issues.

    Logiclife is right, in the beginning it's difficult to realize how important IV is. But as time passed I realized the strength of IV.

    When employers, attorney, doctors all were busy making money out of our misery, dedicated core members and others in IV were preparing to take our cause forward and to fight till we got the justice.

    Today, And I am glad to be a part of it...
    I am with you guys for just 15 days, but I feel empowered.

    Today, I was exuberant, and I don't think this would have been possible without so much effort, unity, perseverance, and enthusiasm in our group.

    I am going to be a lifetime member and contributor to the cause of IV family.

    I run my family in US and understand it's impossible to maintain a family and make progress in the target areas without proper money flow.

    To help in that area, I am making first time $500 contribution and then $20 per month.

    Thanks a lot IV!

    - Amit


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    08-13 08:50 PM

    Just ignore the accusations. Two things here. Firstly, people are really frustrated here with all the GC stuff. Secondly, there has been lot of Anti-immigrants coming in and trying to disrupt the forums, making people inherently suspicious.

    Enjoy your Green Card. Remember to support us lesser mortals in future. :p

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